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The
intent of this page is to quickly present the most common
questions we receive from our customers or via e-mail. If you
have a question please send us an e-mail at
info@skaters-edge.com
and we'd be happy to help.
What is Contouring?
- In
basic terms it’s a process of applying the proper radius
(not to be confused with the hollow) and lie to the skate
blade based on the players age, weight, body type and skates
type.
Why is this important?
- By
applying the proper radius & lie to the blade the skater
will achieve better performance by improving their body
position. This provides the player with improved balance,
increased length in strides, improved stopping, turning and
speed.
Aren’t skates contoured from the manufacture?
- No.
Actually, most skates from the factory, regardless of the
manufacture (Bauer, CCM, Graf, etc.) have inconsistent
radiuses and lies. Not only from manufacture to manufacture,
but from skate to skate. From our experience I’ve seen that
as much as 80-90% of the new skates we contour actually have
different lies between the left and right skate or have a
reverse lie and incorrect radius applied to the blade.
How do I know if my child’s skates need to be contoured?
- If your
child has short choppy strides, has troubles with crossovers
and stopping or seems to skate straight legged (falls a
lot). This is most likely caused by having a reverse or
neutral lie which makes it difficult for a player to
maintain proper forward knee bend and body position.
- If you
child’s skate’s are hand-me downs they more than likely need
to be contoured. This is because the more the skates are
sharpened the more they tend to become “banana” shaped
making it very difficult for a player to find their balance
points on the skates.
- If your
child’s skates are brand new they more than likely need to
be contoured to match their age, weight, body type and skate
type.
- Unless
they were contoured by someone who has the knowledge,
experience and equipment to contour skates more than likely
your child’s skates need to be contoured.
What is the Radius?
- In
general the radius that is applied to the skate blade is
based on the player’s age. Most players under 12-13 years of
age should be on a 13’ radius. Players in age from 13 and up
should be at an 11’ radius.
What
is the Lie?
- The
amount of lie is based on the player’s body type and skate
type. Since boot angles on skates vary from manufacture to
manufacture the proper lie must be applied to achieve
maximum results. Although not recommended, basically a
reverse lie has less blade at the center of the heel and
more at the ball of the foot. This creates poor body
position since the player is actually skating on their
heels. A forward lie is recommended which has less blade at
the ball of the foot and more at the heel, thereby creating
forward knee bend which in turn improves the position of the
body.
My
child is just starting; will it really make a difference?
-
Absolutely. The sooner a player achieves proper body
position and balance the faster other parts of the game
improve. Stick handling, shooting, passing and checking are
all critical components of the game. If a player is having a
hard time trying to skate other parts of the game are
affected. Also, it’s important that a player not develop any
bad habits early in their development. As they get older (in
their teens) these bad habits can be difficult to overcome
and can create obstacles in the future. The bottom line is
skating is the foundation for any good hockey player.
My
child has been playing for a few years; will he/she have any
problems adjusting?
- No. The
great thing about kids is that their bodies adjust more
quickly than adults. However, if you child has playing for a
few years and is not skating on properly contoured skates it
could take a skate or two for them to really get them dialed
in. This is because their muscles are not used to the
increase in forward knee bend and they will have a tendency
to fight it at first. However, once their body adjusts after
the first couple of skates you’ll really see an improvement
and so will they. In many case I’ve seen where kids adjust
in just a few minutes of being on the ice.
How does the process work?
- We’ll
ask a few questions about your player. Height, weight, body
type, how long they’ve played and position. At a young age,
it does not matter if they are male or female.
- Then we
analyze the current condition (radius, lie, boot angle) of
the skates so we know what your child has been skating on.
We then use this information to determine the proper lie,
ranging from .5mm to 1.5mm. This information is gathered by
using a patented boot gage which allows us to place the
proper measuring points on the skates.
- The
skates are then contoured using our contouring machine that
actually applies the radius and lie from a template on the
machine. This insures that both skates are contoured exactly
the same.
- They
are then sharpened.
- Once
completed you’ll receive a report explaining what we found
when we analyzed your skates and what we did.
How much does it cost?
-
Contouring (includes sharpening) = $30.00 p/pair
-
Sharpening = $5.00
What about Skate Sharpening?
- Other
than skate comfort and contouring, sharpening is one of the
most important factors to consider. However, in order to
completely understand what a properly sharpened skate is
it’s important to know the basics.
- The
Hollow. This is the portion of the blade that actually
glides along the ice surface. The deeper the hollow (i.e.
3/8”, 7/16”) the less glide and more “bite”. The flatter the
hollow the more glide and speed with less bite. So the trick
is to find that perfect hollow that provides maximum glide
without sacrificing the bite.
- For
young players I’ve found that a hollow of 9/16-5/8” hollow
provides the perfect combination. This hollow allows the
player to stop more easily, skate faster with less fatigue
and maintain their edges while turning and transitioning
from forward to backward. A great question to ask is how
many times you’ve seen a kid try to stop and they can’t, or
when they do their skates chatter. This is because a stop is
nothing more than a slide by applying more pressure to your
edges. If the player has too much bite they feel
uncomfortable trying to get on edge therefore they won’t, or
if they do they only stop using one foot or dragging their
toe. The more confident a player feels rolling onto their
edges to more likely they are to stop when the play changes
direction.
- Other
factors come into play as well. Things like coarseness of
the grinding wheel, amount of blade removed when sharpening
are all important. A qualified sharpener will understand
these.
I've been hearing a lot about
T'Blades, what are they?
- Designed and developed
in Europe the T-Blade system is designed to provide players
with a "replaceable" blade system that does not require
sharpening. At around $15 p/pair these blade are considered
to be fairly inexpensive and provide the player the ability
to quickly replace the blades when they are worn out. In
addition they offer "pre-contoured and hollow"
configurations. This all sounds good, even to a guy that
runs a business based on what the T-Blade claims to offer.
However if you take a closer look, the cost savings are not
that much plus if you take into consideration the cost and
installation of new holders, the cost can be even higher
than conventional sharpening over a one year period.
- Additionally, the
concept that the blades are "pre-contoured" is
questionable.. The reason for this is because a properly
contoured skate is based on the body, the skate and the sole
plate. Based on their system it is very difficult, (if not
impossible) to properly place the T-Blade holder in the
proper position on the sole plate. The correct placement of
APEX of the radius (i.e. 11' or 13') is critical in
making sure the body is properly balanced. If it's not, then
the fact that the T-Blade is contoured means nothing. In
addition, other important factors considered when contouring
skates are the boot angle, and angle from the ball of the
foot to the heel. Every skate is different and requires
adjustments in the contouring based on this so if the
T-Blade radius and lie is based on their own skates it most
likely will be wrong for your skates.
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